Comments on: Hey Generation Y – let’s get professional! http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:53:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Roger Fulton http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-768 Roger Fulton Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:45:08 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-768 I offer this point of view to add to the discussion, not to criticize it. Nothing changes, the colors change, the shapes roll over, rotate, the light draws a different hue as the sun peeks through, but, basically, not much is different. Computers and telephones, electronics beeps over the lines have helped people who have trouble forming human relationships over a cup of coffee, reach out into the world with a keyboard and be something that in their hearts, they can't...quite...do - in person. True, in time, intergrating their brains and hearts and creativity, when they eventually meld together they do great things, but, humans are humans. We are all frail, excitable, prone to exaggeration, mistakes, over-reaching, like the kids above. What is "professionalism?" I don't recognize it by my standards. Ok, so it's a new generations. Maybe someday, they make presentations in board rooms in their socks - good for them. As long as they close the deal, I guess. Their gross assumption is: everyone has computers. This is WHARTON, folks. Somebody has not done their homework. I can thing of two states where statistically, only one out of two houses has a computer. The other house doesn't even speak "Google." Hmm, problem, eh? I wonder if that other house even knows what a "Facebook" is? Roger Fulton Tucson, Arizona Wharton 68 I offer this point of view to add to the discussion, not to criticize it. Nothing changes, the colors change, the shapes roll over, rotate, the light draws a different hue as the sun peeks through, but, basically, not much is different.
Computers and telephones, electronics beeps over the lines have helped people who have trouble forming human relationships over a cup of coffee, reach out into the world with a keyboard and be something that in their hearts, they can’t…quite…do – in person.
True, in time, intergrating their brains and hearts and creativity, when they eventually meld together they do great things, but, humans are humans. We are all frail, excitable, prone to exaggeration, mistakes, over-reaching, like the kids above.
What is “professionalism?” I don’t recognize it by my standards. Ok, so it’s a new generations. Maybe someday, they make presentations in board rooms in their socks – good for them. As long as they close the deal, I guess.
Their gross assumption is: everyone has computers. This is WHARTON, folks. Somebody has not done their homework. I can thing of two states where statistically, only one out of two houses has a computer. The other house doesn’t even speak “Google.”
Hmm, problem, eh? I wonder if that other house even knows what a “Facebook” is?
Roger Fulton
Tucson, Arizona
Wharton 68

]]> By: Pete http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-749 Pete Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:40:30 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-749 "Isn’t my generation supposed to be innovators - the people that change the way society functions?" It would be great if that were the case, but it certainly isn't my expectation of the gen-Y generation. I think that using social networking sites (correctly) is great because they are there. I'm not sure these sites are overly revolutionary or overly neccessary. In many cases it's yet to be discovered what the business model is for these products anyway. It would be wrong in my opinion to get overly hung-up on the web 2.0 revolution. Much of the technical revolutions that have occurred in the last century made dramatic changes to how things get done, but did not change the underlying nature of things that one must really understand to be successful. My electrical engineering degree from 20 years ago is no less useful today even though the nature of the practice of engineering has changed dramatically. That being said, the $26,000 tuition payments are also something that many new graduates will come to regret (not the degree, but the price) - something that is really problematic for gen-Y. “Isn’t my generation supposed to be innovators – the people that change the way society functions?”

It would be great if that were the case, but it certainly isn’t my expectation of the gen-Y generation.

I think that using social networking sites (correctly) is great because they are there. I’m not sure these sites are overly revolutionary or overly neccessary. In many cases it’s yet to be discovered what the business model is for these products anyway.

It would be wrong in my opinion to get overly hung-up on the web 2.0 revolution. Much of the technical revolutions that have occurred in the last century made dramatic changes to how things get done, but did not change the underlying nature of things that one must really understand to be successful. My electrical engineering degree from 20 years ago is no less useful today even though the nature of the practice of engineering has changed dramatically.

That being said, the $26,000 tuition payments are also something that many new graduates will come to regret (not the degree, but the price) – something that is really problematic for gen-Y.

]]> By: Phyllis Zimbler Miller http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-745 Phyllis Zimbler Miller Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:46:47 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-745 Lydia -- I'm so pleased to see this post of yours because I have just developed a solution to this problem. My company Miller Mosaic LLC is launching the Miller Mosaic Internet Marketing Program on July 1st to help people learn internet marketing (including Twitter, etc.) without overwhelming them. A couple of days ago I realized that the college and just-out-of-college market really needs this information. So I am going to start doing outreach to your generation. The membership program is only $19.95 a month and will provide high-quality information in a variety of internet marketing subjects. I got my M.B.A. from Wharton in 1980, and until recently I coached teens on job preparation. If you have any questions, you can email me at pzmiller@millermosaicllc.com and follow me on Twitter at @ZimblerMiller. Twitter is extremely important and not easy to understand how to use effectively. You can read my post http://budurl.com/beginningTwitter, which is part of my gig as a National Internet Business Examiner at http://www.InternetBizBlogger.com, and I've written several other articles in different places about using Twitter effectively. Phyllis Zimbler Miller Lydia –

I’m so pleased to see this post of yours because I have just developed a solution to this problem. My company Miller Mosaic LLC is launching the Miller Mosaic Internet Marketing Program on July 1st to help people learn internet marketing (including Twitter, etc.) without overwhelming them.

A couple of days ago I realized that the college and just-out-of-college market really needs this information. So I am going to start doing outreach to your generation.

The membership program is only $19.95 a month and will provide high-quality information in a variety of internet marketing subjects. I got my M.B.A. from Wharton in 1980, and until recently I coached teens on job preparation.

If you have any questions, you can email me at pzmiller@millermosaicllc.com and follow me on Twitter at @ZimblerMiller.

Twitter is extremely important and not easy to understand how to use effectively. You can read my post http://budurl.com/beginningTwitter, which is part of my gig as a National Internet Business Examiner at http://www.InternetBizBlogger.com, and I’ve written several other articles in different places about using Twitter effectively.

Phyllis Zimbler Miller

]]> By: Lydia http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-743 Lydia Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:29:08 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-743 Shannon, I see what you're saying, but I have to say, at the same time a lot of businesses/business operations are transforming themselves to be more social. So you have to ask yourself if it's business that's evolving for social networks or the other way around. When you think about Facebook from five years ago, when we were just starting college, it was about creating relationships between college kids that might not necessarily be able to connect (and worked especially well for big schools). In fact, they advertised it as something you could use for schoolwork (remember when you could list your classes and find other people in them for notes?). Therefore, I think they created it with the premise that a school network is just a microcosm of a professional society. I'm not sold on the idea that this social network Facebook created and the dependency we have on it now wasn't their original dream. It's an interesting thought and probably more of the unanswerable "chicken or the egg." Either way, we can only hope that college's begin training us more thoroughly on the skill. Shannon, I see what you’re saying, but I have to say, at the same time a lot of businesses/business operations are transforming themselves to be more social. So you have to ask yourself if it’s business that’s evolving for social networks or the other way around. When you think about Facebook from five years ago, when we were just starting college, it was about creating relationships between college kids that might not necessarily be able to connect (and worked especially well for big schools). In fact, they advertised it as something you could use for schoolwork (remember when you could list your classes and find other people in them for notes?). Therefore, I think they created it with the premise that a school network is just a microcosm of a professional society. I’m not sold on the idea that this social network Facebook created and the dependency we have on it now wasn’t their original dream. It’s an interesting thought and probably more of the unanswerable “chicken or the egg.” Either way, we can only hope that college’s begin training us more thoroughly on the skill.

]]> By: Shannon http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-742 Shannon Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:40:34 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-742 Interesting post. I am finishing up my college career and your totally right they don't prepare you for excelling in the newest trends and strategies. I am also having a hard time realizing that my profiles on sites like facebook, may eventually have to transition from fun past memories to a more professional image as I progress in my career. I see the business opportunities on these sites but a big part of me wishes that we could leave the business aspects for sites like LinkedIn and leave facebook to be the pure social site it was created to be. Interesting post. I am finishing up my college career and your totally right they don’t prepare you for excelling in the newest trends and strategies. I am also having a hard time realizing that my profiles on sites like facebook, may eventually have to transition from fun past memories to a more professional image as I progress in my career.

I see the business opportunities on these sites but a big part of me wishes that we could leave the business aspects for sites like LinkedIn and leave facebook to be the pure social site it was created to be.

]]> By: Anna http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-369 Anna Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:18:35 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-369 Social networking gives so many advantages both socially and professionally. The world, that used to be so insanely big, has become an English village. I know what some of my grade school friends are doing on a daily basis, people I've only seen once every five years since back in the day. When it first started, I only kept people who I have internal jokes with on my list of friends. Now, it's such a great professional channel as well, so you just have to remember to treat it as if your mom is watching your every move. Social networking gives so many advantages both socially and professionally. The world, that used to be so insanely big, has become an English village. I know what some of my grade school friends are doing on a daily basis, people I’ve only seen once every five years since back in the day. When it first started, I only kept people who I have internal jokes with on my list of friends. Now, it’s such a great professional channel as well, so you just have to remember to treat it as if your mom is watching your every move.

]]> By: Alison http://blog.pr-vantage.com/2009/02/17/hey-generation-y-lets-get-professional/comment-page-1#comment-368 Alison Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:21:58 +0000 http://blog.pr-vantage.com/?p=1050#comment-368 Very interesting. I think we are *all* confused at how things are going to play out with FaceBook, etc... but we're jumping in none-the-less!! Very interesting. I think we are *all* confused at how things are going to play out with FaceBook, etc… but we’re jumping in none-the-less!!

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